How to Support Your Teen Through Their First Heartbreak with Charity Chaffee
How to Support Your Teen Through Their First Heartbreak
Watching your child go through their first heartbreak can feel unbearable. As a parent, you may feel helpless, panicked, or flooded with memories of your own teenage breakup experiences. You want to protect them from pain, but you also know you cannot take it away. This moment matters more than it may seem, not because the relationship will last forever, but because the emotional impact is very real.
This episode is about how to show up when your teen is hurting in a way that supports teen mental health and strengthens your relationship instead of creating distance. I am joined by teen mental health specialist Charity Chaffee to talk about what teens actually need from parents during a first heartbreak, and why validating emotions is far more powerful than trying to fix the pain.
Why a First Heartbreak Feels So Devastating
A first heartbreak is not just about losing a relationship. It is often the first time your teen experiences deep emotional loss, rejection, and grief. A teenage breakup can feel world-ending because teens do not yet have the perspective that comes with time and experience. Their brains are still developing, and emotions feel more intense and permanent.
From a teen mental health standpoint, this intensity is expected. Teens are forming their identity, learning about intimacy, and navigating social systems where relationships are deeply tied to belonging and self-worth. When a teenage breakup happens, it can shake their sense of safety and confidence in a very real way.
Why Parents Often React in Unhelpful Ways
When parents see their teen in pain, two common reactions tend to show up. One is minimizing the pain by saying things like “It was just a short relationship” or “You will get over it.” The other is becoming overly involved, trying to analyze everything or fix the situation.
Both responses can unintentionally harm teen mental health. Minimizing dismisses the emotional reality of a first heartbreak, while over-involvement can make teens feel controlled or misunderstood. In both cases, teens may stop opening up, which makes healing harder.
The Power of Validating Emotions
One of the most important tools parents have during a teenage breakup is validating emotions. Validation does not mean agreeing with everything your teen says or thinks. It means acknowledging that their feelings make sense given their experience.
When you focus on validating emotions, you send a powerful message to your teen that their pain matters and that they are not alone. This builds trust and emotional safety, which are essential for long-term teen mental health. Teens who feel emotionally validated are more likely to process grief in healthy ways and less likely to shut down or act out.
Staying Neutral While Staying Connected
During a first heartbreak, it is tempting to criticize the other teen or take sides aggressively. While this may feel protective, it can backfire if your teen reconnects with that person or still has complicated feelings.
Staying neutral helps keep communication open. It allows your teen to reflect on the relationship honestly and learn from the experience. Neutrality combined with validating emotions supports growth and self-awareness rather than resentment or shame.
Giving Teens Space to Heal on Their Timeline
Healing from a teenage breakup does not follow a neat schedule. Some teens bounce back quickly, while others need more time. Supporting teen mental health means allowing grief to unfold without rushing it.
Checking in, offering support, and letting your teen lead the pace of conversations shows respect for their emotional process. When parents trust this process and continue validating emotions, teens feel empowered rather than pressured.
Modeling Healthy Coping After a Teenage Breakup
Teens learn how to cope by watching the adults in their lives. This is an opportunity to model healthy coping strategies like movement, rest, creativity, connection, or simply sitting with feelings without judgment.
Showing your teen that painful emotions can be tolerated and processed supports resilience and emotional regulation. Over time, this strengthens teen mental health far beyond the moment of a first heartbreak.
What Teens Need Most During Their First Heartbreak
Teens do not need parents to fix their pain. They need presence, patience, and understanding. A first heartbreak is a formative emotional experience, and how parents respond can shape how teens approach future relationships and emotional challenges.
When parents prioritize validating emotions, stay emotionally available, and respect their teen’s process, they help transform a painful teenage breakup into an experience of growth, connection, and emotional learning. Supporting teen mental health in these moments builds trust that lasts far beyond adolescence.
Your teen may not remember everything you say, but they will remember how safe they felt coming to you when their heart was broken.
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[00:00:00] Leah Clionsky: Welcome to the Educated Parent Podcast. It is Valentine's Day, and so this podcast has a romantic theme today, but I guarantee you, if you have not had this problem yet, it will happen. What do you do when your teen goes through heartbreak? What do you do when your teen or tween suffers a breakup? How can you make this experience something that brings you together and not something that causes more conflict between you?
[00:00:29] Leah Clionsky: So that's why I have my amazing guest here today, charity Chaffee. I'm gonna let her introduce herself briefly. Welcome to the podcast, charity.
[00:00:38] Charity Chaffee: Hi. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on today, Leah, I'm so excited to talk about this because this is a really important topic when we're talking about teens and romance and relationship. And what the heck do you do as a parent if you're watching your kid go through heartbreak?
[00:00:52] Charity Chaffee: Um, so my name is Charity Chaffee. I'm a teen mental health specialist, uh, licensed in Massachusetts. I also run teens Uncharted, which is an entire community based on supporting. Therapists who work with teens, um, so that they can be more effective and efficient and supported in their work. But teens are my jam.
[00:01:09] Charity Chaffee: They've been my population since, you know, I was essentially in grad school, um, and I couldn't imagine working with any other population. So I'm very excited to be here today to talk about this.
[00:01:18] Leah Clionsky: No, I'm so excited that you're here because when I started thinking who is going to talk about teen relationships with me, I knew Charity. You were the person to do it, so I'm so glad you agreed.
[00:01:28] Charity Chaffee: Yes, of course. I mean, I could talk teens all day. Um, so I always love finding places that I can do that.
[00:01:35] Leah Clionsky: Why do you think teen breakups are so hard for parents to support kids through? Because it's, they really struggle when their kid goes through heartbreak. Why do you think that's so challenging?
[00:01:49] Charity Chaffee: So I'm so glad you asked this, and I think that a big part of it is that you're watching your kid maybe for the first time. Be like destroyed from the inside out, right? And when just like you're watching your kids struggle, learning a new skill, you're watching them kind of like attend something over and over and over again and they haven't mastered it, it can be really hard to sit with that as a parent and to really just like let them kind of experience that.
[00:02:11] Charity Chaffee: And so when you have a teenager who's going through that. You so badly wanna fix it for them. You wanna make it all better. You don't want them to experience heartbreak. Um, and so I think it's hard to sit and watch your kid do that. And then I think at the same time as parents, we always have our own reflections of like, I remember when that happened to me, and I remember how bad that was or how much that hurt or like how much pain I was in.
[00:02:35] Charity Chaffee: And of course like. When we're talking about cycle breaking, we don't want our kids or our teenagers to experience that, but it is a part of relationships and growth and development that they have to go through, even if we don't want them to.
[00:02:46] Leah Clionsky: So you think it almost hits too close to home? Like the suffering of that breakup is so memorable to us, you know? And also 'cause adults go through breakups too. Like who, you know, like something recently could have happened to you as an adult that feels similar. And so it's, it's really hard to take a backseat when you're watching suffering about a topic that's just so relatable.
[00:03:09] Leah Clionsky: And also anything that's wrapped up in like sexual activity, sexuality, like that always heightens, like a lot of feelings parents have about any sort of situation. Kids or teens are in.
[00:03:22] Charity Chaffee: Yes. Well, when we think about how our memories are really stored in our like nervous system and then we think about how like. Sensory related, like sex and intimacy and like all of those love feelings are, it is so much more challenging to just be like, just forget about it. It's fine. It's a high school partner.
[00:03:39] Charity Chaffee: Like you're never gonna, you know, you're never gonna remember them. So as much as we wanna dismiss it right. There are so many memories that are intertwined in this. And then we also can't forget that a lot of these relationships, it's the first or second time that they have experienced any of that kind of like groundwork in terms of relationships.
[00:03:57] Charity Chaffee: Um, and so there's a lot of things they like haven't experienced for the first time, right? Like the first time you kiss someone, like you'll probably never forget that. So that is like forever a part of you, right? So. I think relationships aren't just end of relationship. It's like all the things that are kind of there.
[00:04:14] Charity Chaffee: And I think that's the part where we can talk about how you can take those as opportunities for growth and development and like fond memories. And it doesn't have to all be negative, but, and I actually, in thinking about this, I remember my like actual first breakup and I was in, I was in eighth grade and I remember that like, things felt a little weird and um, at that point I was dating boys, so he like.
[00:04:38] Charity Chaffee: You know, broke up with me over the phone. Right. 'cause that's how we did it. We were actually talking on the phone. Um, and I just remember like my heart as an eighth grader was like totally ripped out and I was like, I couldn't breathe. I just felt like my entire world had been destroyed. Even though I had really healthy friends, I had swimming.
[00:04:55] Charity Chaffee: I was a very active kid. I was involved in a lot of things. Like I still remember, like, I literally went on like a five mile run that day just so I could forget everything that had just happened. Um, and so I think it's really important, like I still remember that I'm in my thirties.
[00:05:10] Leah Clionsky: Yeah, that's excruciating. As you were describing that, I was like, oh, I know what that feels like. There's that. Like I know where in my chest I feel that sort of pain. I felt that kind of heartbreak. And then, you know what's interesting is in eighth grade it can literally be, it can be that the person you have a crush on didn't say hi back.
[00:05:30] Leah Clionsky: Like there's so many like little injuries that feel. Devastating when you like somebody like that at that age. And so the breakup, even if the relationship was three hours long, it means something. Even if all you did was like pass a note, like, do you like me check? Like yes, no. Or maybe like even if it was at that level, the breakup still is really agonizing and has real social consequences too.
[00:05:56] Charity Chaffee: It does. It does. And I, I think as adult, it's easy for us to sometimes dismiss like relationships of like. Oh, you only kissed once. You only dated for a week. You only did this. But, um, you know, we have to remember that all those experiences are like the first time you fell when you were trying to walk as an infant, right?
[00:06:13] Charity Chaffee: And like the first couple times you fall, the first couple times you fall while running, you fall off your bike. Those are big deals. Like we, we rewire those in our system. Um, and so I think like, you know, even, even now, I'm like, I know that there were pieces of my life and of my dating life that were wired into this situation when I was eight.
[00:06:31] Charity Chaffee: In eighth grade and got dumped for the first time.
[00:06:34] Leah Clionsky: Wow. Yeah, no, you're right. It, it's such an impact and you don't know that you'll ever feel better again. Like it's so shattering that it feels like you'll be terminally sad in that moment,
[00:06:45] Charity Chaffee: yeah, so.
[00:06:46] Leah Clionsky: not dramatic. It's like really your perception right then.
[00:06:49] Charity Chaffee: Yeah, well, 'cause I think we don't have a, a sense of timeline, right? When it's the first time where it's happening for us, we don't really know how long it's gonna take to feel better. We don't know like what we're gonna need to go through to kind of get there. Um, we don't know what the social fallout is gonna be.
[00:07:03] Charity Chaffee: Right? And we're navigating all of these changes sometimes for the first or second time. Um, and I think even, I could even argue that as a senior in high school. You may be more aware of your own time. Might've had to get through like breakups, um, but it doesn't mean that you're perfect at doing them yet.
[00:07:20] Leah Clionsky: Yeah, I mean, who's ever perfect at getting through a break? Yeah, it's, it's a brutal though. Yeah. You've had more practice, right? You know, like this is what helped me last time. Like I wasn't sad actually forever. Yeah. I also, you and I were talking about this before charity, but like when I speak with teens, like I feel like they're on a different timeline than adults.
[00:07:44] Leah Clionsky: Like a three month relationship to a teenager is akin to a one year relationship as an adult. Like things just move differently. Your whole social situation and friend group can change, and then there's high, high stake events like prom, and then you, maybe you're not going to prom now and you were, or you know, someone else is going to prom with the, the person you thought you were gonna go with.
[00:08:08] Leah Clionsky: Like it. Everything actually does mean more socially than it does, even as an adult. So it's really rough. It's really hard.
[00:08:16] Charity Chaffee: It is. It is. And I think like part of that also just comments on like the brain development of, of teenagers and teenagers when we were talking about how fast things move for them. This is another one of those things. Um, so. Uh, you know, as adults, like we, I think, have gone through so many of these experiences that we're like, oh, it's like, no big deal.
[00:08:35] Charity Chaffee: We're like, good to go. Um, but our brain development has also slowed down our, like, structural stuff. Our narratives are already kind of like. Situated and cemented. Um, and so when you have kids going through this, it's really like that process of growing and developing and figure out how do I wanna navigate situations like this?
[00:08:54] Charity Chaffee: Um, which, it's, it's just like riding a bike, right? The first couple times you ride a bike, it's not gonna be so great. Um. Even if you like, are good on a bike, but then you take a break from that and you get back on, you might have a fall. So I think there's a lot of, um, you know, helpful structural stuff and narratives that we can give tweens and teens so that they really understand what relationships can be like.
[00:09:15] Charity Chaffee: Um, middle school and high school.
[00:09:17] Leah Clionsky: Yeah, there's like stuff we can do. You know, I've seen parents, like, well-intentioned parents do two, two opposite reactions that hurt teens a lot. I've seen the, well, it's not a big deal. Get over it. Reaction, where it's like very like logic driven. Like you only dated for two months. Why are you so upset about this?
[00:09:37] Leah Clionsky: Just go find a new girlfriend or whatever. You know? Like, you shouldn't even be upset. They weren't worth your time. So I've seen that reaction. And then the opposite reaction where. It's like an overly involved sort of reaction. Like what have you seen in the over, you know, that other extreme. So it's like either get over it or what's the other way you've seen it play out Charity.
[00:09:59] Charity Chaffee: Yeah, so I have definitely seen, um, parents that kind of. Try to like force the processing. And so they try to really get in there. They try to like pick themselves up. They try to like analyze kind of every component of this, even to the point where sometimes they start like crap talking the partner or being like, you know, they were really bad for you and here's all the reasons why they're not a good fit or that they suck.
[00:10:20] Charity Chaffee: Um, and I can understand the mentality of wanting to kind of like support your kid through all of those emotions. But, um, I would always really caution people. About kind of like crap talking the other person, because you don't actually know what that is gonna look like, um, even a week after a breakup or six months, et cetera.
[00:10:39] Charity Chaffee: Um, so, and I, I think too, there are parents that, that are so impacted by it and they have such a hard time regulating themselves that they try to be really on top of their kid when that's happening and like almost controlling the process. Um. But I, and I think that that actually sends an opposite message to teens where parents are like, I'm gonna get on top of this for you.
[00:10:59] Charity Chaffee: Like I'm gonna feel this for you. And then teens feel smothered or they feel like they don't have control, or that their parent doesn't trust them to really be able to like navigate that situation and ask for the things that they need.
[00:11:11] Leah Clionsky: This is why it's so hard to be a parent, right? You're like, no, I'll get really in. And that'll fix it. Nope, that doesn't help. Alright, I will pretend it's not that big a deal and maybe you won't think it's that big of a deal. Well, that really doesn't help. So this is where we get to the place Charity, where you tell us three strategies for actually navigating this well with teens.
[00:11:31] Leah Clionsky: What do, what do you do when your child's heart is broken?
[00:11:34] Charity Chaffee: Yes. Well, I think, I think the first thing I always say is to stay neutral, right? Um, you can, obviously, we can look at any relationship after something has, like they've separated, they've divorced wherever we are in the lifespan. And we can say that there are things at your kid, your teen. Did really well and there are things that they probably need to work on, right?
[00:11:54] Charity Chaffee: Um, and so staying neutral allows us to actually center the experiences of our teens, um, and not just being like, yeah, you're great. Everything you did was perfect. There's nothing wrong with you, right? Because relationships are really an opportunity for us to learn. About, like things that we like, things that we don't like, where are our weak spots that we need to be able to address and work on so that our next relationship is that much better, right?
[00:12:17] Charity Chaffee: We're showing improvement. We're investing in ourselves so that future partner gets all the, the efficiency, all the work, all of the effort that we've put in in that relationship. Um.
[00:12:28] Leah Clionsky: So it's sort of like how we might help a child navigate a friendship where like, here's what they did well, here's where they might have made some mistakes. Here's what you did well, here's where maybe you could have communicated or handled things a little better. I guess we should add the caveat to this is not advice where if your child has been in a, an abusive relationship.
[00:12:46] Leah Clionsky: Right. This is like advice for your child's heart is broken, but the other person was not like DA dangerously harming them. That's a whole different kind of episode.
[00:12:55] Charity Chaffee: Yes, yes. Correct. Thank you so much for pointing that out. 'cause I do think it's an important thing, um, you know, to talk about healthy relationships, to talk about balance in relationships. Like those are conversations hopefully that you've had. Before your teen ever enters into a relationship. But I do think that when we're talking about abusive relationships, there are things we absolutely need to name.
[00:13:14] Charity Chaffee: Whether your kid was the one that was like abusive in that relationship or it was a partner, um, because we want to try to get underneath of those things before they ever become kind of a bigger deal in future relationships. Um, but staying neutral is really gonna help you kind of ground and center your teen.
[00:13:31] Charity Chaffee: And then the other part of that that's really great is that then you're not in a sticky situation if your kid decides. Oh, we're actually back together, right? So if you are in a situation where you've trash talked this partner, and then two weeks later they work it out and they're like, oh, we're together again.
[00:13:45] Charity Chaffee: Now you are in this space where you have just spent, I don't know, a week or two trash talking this other person and now they're back together. And now what do you do? Right? So as a parent, we try, we try to think ahead about that. 'cause we wanna keep ourselves out of the sticky situations. And staying neutral is your best bet.
[00:14:02] Leah Clionsky: Yeah. It's like I've had that happen with friends before where you're like, oh, I never liked, I never liked that guy. And then they get back together and you're like, oh no. Now they're not gonna tell me anything about the relationship anymore because you know, they know that I'm now biased. Right.
[00:14:16] Charity Chaffee: Exactly, and staying neutral allows them to come back to you and say, these are the things we've talked about and this is why we're back together. It continues that conversation versus them now seeing like, oh, I can't talk to my parent about this because they actually hate you, which. Which really may not be true at all.
[00:14:33] Charity Chaffee: What you hated potentially was seeing your kid experience those really strong emotions and not having any control and not being able to fix it. Yeah.
[00:14:43] Leah Clionsky: Absolutely. And it's hard. I feel like that would be the hard, luckily my kids are so young, I don't have to run into this for a while, but that would be the hard part is anyone who hurts your child in your mind is now the worst. And so it is hard to take that step back and like really treat it as a learning experience that your child can process with you as a more neutral person.
[00:15:02] Leah Clionsky: Listening. Alright, so helpful. All right. What's our second tip?
[00:15:06] Charity Chaffee: Okay, so our second tip is really giving them space to process their own emotions without our input and feedback. Um, and this sounds really easy, I think, at the start of it, but what we're talking about is really allowing them to process the ups and, and the downs to process the curiosity to process the different things that are happening on their own timeline.
[00:15:27] Charity Chaffee: Um, I think that as parents, we have this. Kind of like push or this, this anxiety about like, oh, you have to be over this in a week, or like, you have a competition next week, so you have to be in a good space. Um, but life is gonna continue to happen and we don't wanna rush them through the, the processes that they're having to like really understand that heartbreak for themselves.
[00:15:47] Charity Chaffee: Um, we want them to be able to do that on their own timeline in the same way where like you have one kid that might learn to ride a bike in three weeks. You might have one kid that might take them a year. To do that. Both of those experiences are valid. Um, and it really takes into consideration like who your kid is.
[00:16:03] Charity Chaffee: And so I think for a lot of these strategies, it's really having a strong collaborative relationship and understanding who your kid is at the core so that you can kind of offer those pieces.
[00:16:12] Leah Clionsky: So is this the kind of situation where you're, you're checking in with them like, Hey, how are you doing about the breakup? You know, how can I be there for you? But then you're also not like, well, I'm gonna, we're gonna do this. We're gonna burn all their stuff tonight, and now you'll feel better about this tomorrow.
[00:16:27] Leah Clionsky: So it's like allowing them to sort of lead while you validate their perspective without like coming in and trying to make them feel better. Um,
[00:16:36] Charity Chaffee: Exactly.
[00:16:37] Leah Clionsky: by force
[00:16:38] Charity Chaffee: Exactly because we, we can't make them feel better. We can't take responsibility for their emotions. Um, but we can give them space and time and support to do that.
[00:16:47] Leah Clionsky: no one can make you feel better. Charity, if we could just make people feel better, there would be no therapist. We would just cure you of feeling bad.
[00:16:56] Charity Chaffee: I, you know, I wish I had that magic wand 'cause I would be so rich and the world would be free of trauma. It'd be great.
[00:17:04] Leah Clionsky: Although, you know what? Like there's value in mourning something that meant something to you. So, you know, what I often say to kids when they're struggling with sadness is that there's, if you weren't sad about this, it would mean you didn't care about it, right? So it says something about the relationship and about its value and importance and what that really means.
[00:17:23] Leah Clionsky: If you're struggling with the validating part, this might be a good time to go back and listen to the episode I did on how to validate kids, kind of if you're, if you're not remembering how to do that skill, that might be helpful.
[00:17:34] Charity Chaffee: Yeah, I love that.
[00:17:36] Leah Clionsky: Right? Charity, give us the third one.
[00:17:38] Charity Chaffee: All right. So the, the last one is really showing them the way, right? So it's showing them the coping, it's allowing an opportunity to express and try a lot of different things without them feeling forced to do it. So, for instance, you had mentioned like, let's burn all their stuff. For some people that might be the way that they wanna cope with that.
[00:17:55] Charity Chaffee: Right. And that is also like valid as long as it's safe and done in an appropriate way, right? Um, but that may not be your teens response or like response to a breakup, right? So when we're thinking about the fact as adults, a lot of us have been through 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 breakups, right? We have a little bit of the process of how we have coped with that.
[00:18:15] Charity Chaffee: And so I think showing, hey, you have all these coping skills that we can do, and allowing them to explore them is super helpful. So you often will see, um. I don't know, like I think in Gilmore Girls a bunch of times when like Rory had a breakup that you'd see like her and mom sitting there on the couch eating like Gar, like gallons of ice cream, right?
[00:18:33] Charity Chaffee: And you just, they'd be watching trash TV and they would just be chatting and doing nothing. That could be a really great way to kind of show support for someone and be like, Hey, let's try this, right? Like, let's try these things that might help you feel better. And just like. Sit in that with you. Um, but we have a lot of coping skills as adults.
[00:18:50] Charity Chaffee: If that's a five mile run, if that's like, let's find something new to bake, let's join a class. There are so many things that we can do to offer support and distraction while they're going through that initial heartbreak. Good.
[00:19:01] Leah Clionsky: Yeah, I remember my mom just watching movie after movie with me when I'd go through a tough time like that, and it was really helpful. It gave me someone to talk to. Right? Because you process things at different times. So there's the initial reaction, and then after a while then you have like a diff different reaction that you wanna talk about with someone.
[00:19:19] Leah Clionsky: Like, is this because I'm unlovable, is maybe the thing your teen is asking you later. You know, will I never find anyone ever again? And that's like not maybe the first thing they say that's maybe that thing they say the second week once they've. Processed it down, and that's a whole different conversation than maybe the first conversation.
[00:19:36] Leah Clionsky: So you like, I feel like you always just wanna be someone that your kids can talk to.
[00:19:42] Charity Chaffee: Absolutely. I, and I think that shows like you have good collaboration, you have good connection. Um, connection is probably one of the most important things. And I feel like when you have that, then you're. You're so much like you're in a better space to be able to support them through the hard parts because they feel like they can be vulnerable.
[00:19:58] Charity Chaffee: They feel like you're gonna center them like their emotions and their thoughts and feelings. You, they feel your presence. Um, which sometimes that's all you need, right? Like I, I got broken up with, in eighth grade, it was the first time my heart was like absolutely devastated. I went on a five mile run. I like shut myself in my room.
[00:20:14] Charity Chaffee: I like. Listen to a lot of music. Right. Um, but my parents were there and so they were kind of like, let us know if you need anything. They, you know, helped remind me about like swim meets and things like that. But, um, I think everyone processes in different ways and there's no wrong way to cope with that.
[00:20:30] Leah Clionsky: Unless you're hurting yourself.
[00:20:31] Charity Chaffee: Yes, yes,
[00:20:33] Leah Clionsky: As long as you're not endangering yourself in any sort of way, but yeah. Yeah, there's a whole range. There's a whole menu, a cheesecake, factory size menu of, of things you can do that would be okay. And safe.
[00:20:46] Charity Chaffee: Yes.
[00:20:48] Leah Clionsky: You know, I love this conversation, charity. I think this is gonna be so helpful because unfortunately, Valentine's Day is a time when many people get their hearts broken.
[00:20:55] Leah Clionsky: So that's why we wanted the episode to come out today. Charity. Where can people find you if they wanna learn more about working with teens, supporting their teens?
[00:21:04] Charity Chaffee: Yes. Perfect. So teens, um, teens uncharted.com, um, is my website. And then I have, I'm on all the social medias under teens dot uncharted. Um, I give a lot of tips about how to work with teens if you're a therapist. Also give a lot of parenting tips on how to think about teens from a collaborative lens. Um, and I'm gonna be doing some workshops and stuff like that as well coming up.
[00:21:24] Charity Chaffee: So, uh, but everything is on my website@teensuncharted.com.
[00:21:28] Leah Clionsky: Awesome. We will link that in the show notes so that you can easily find it. Charity. Thank you so, so much for being on the podcast. We loved having you and, um, for our listeners, it was wonderful being able to share this conversation with you. And I will talk to you again next week.